I’ve made a quite a few remarks these past couple of days on this subject at Neoneocon. I thought I’d re-print them here to avoid being too redundant on the subject.
Comment 1:
To me, I think this entire situation is about the oil pipeline going from A-stan (I don’t know the spelling off the top of my head), through Georgia to Turkey. There was an agreement back in 2001 to build that pipeline with the intention of giving the West and the Far East access to this oil, that is, Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan and Australia.
This would undercut Russia’s veritable stranglehold on Europe’s energy supply, which is no small thing in the heavy winters of Europe. This pipeline would also lessen Russia’s influence in the world since they receive most of their revenue from the selling of natural resources.
The pipeline was constructed and financed primarily by two powers: The United States and Israel. There are some scattered reports of both US military advisors and Israeli military advisors present in Georgia at the start of hostilities.
Though I do not lightly dismiss allegations of “genocide” in Georgia, I find it strange to call the movement of a sovereign national power of its troops within it’s own territory an act of “aggression”. And when conflict arises, there will be civilian casualties.
When we’re talking about a region in the world that is not known for its precision bombing and over concern for civilian causalities, you will see the kinds of actions you see here. Though I may be wrong, I wouldn’t put it past Putin to send it his troops in the area, force the Georgians to respond, and, thus, giving him the perfect pretext with which to invade and destroy that pipeline.
In the end, I think it’s all about the pipeline and little about the stability of the region. Should the pipeline be successful, it would drop the price of oil like a stone. It would also flush much of the Russian economy down the drain as well… (I was wrong about this. The pipeline wouldn’t flush the Russia economy down the tubes, not in the least.)
Comment 2:
To sum up my previous comments, I think this is yet another proxy war between the United States and Russia. It is no secret that Russia and the United States seem to be on a collision course. Georgia, who was in talks to be a full member of NATO, has been and is being backed by the United States, and they have also sent their troops in Iraq to help us there. (It turns out that they are third in their commitment of troops to Iraq behind the United States and Britain. If we are talking per capita, they have poured in more resources than we have.)
From my understanding, Georgia is also in negotiations to receive some of our weapons systems. It would not surprise me one bit that Russia views all this as the United States and the West containing them as we did when they were the Soviet Union.
Given our support of Kosovo Independence in the face of vehement Russia protest, our deployment of interceptor weapons systems in Eastern Europe, and our treaties with K-stan and India and other countries, Russia announced just a couple months ago that they will respond militarily.
This, I believe, is the opening bell.
I understand that the Russian people view all Slavs as their own people, declarations of independence not withstanding. To them, the equivalent of us supporting Kosovo national independence is if they supported and armed the radical Sioux Indian tribe here in the U.S.
In fact, that is what Putin threatened if we continue to support Kosovo national independece. This was around December of last year, but Putin’s aides talked him out of that one because that would obviously mean war.
This entire situation could easily spiral out of control unto a general world war. Let us pray that won’t happen.
Comment 3:
Russia has always been an imperial, expansionist state; whether it took the form of Tsarist Russia or the Soviet Union or in it’s current incarnation of a thug-ocracy is quite beside the point.
Every nation has their own grand strategic interests. For us, it is to maintain our dominance of the oceans not only for the defense of our long coastlines, but also to ensure the free-flow of trade and commerce which is vital to our survival as a mercantile nation.
For Russia, they’re grand strategy must involve the dominance of their soft underbelly, their southern borders. There they encounter the instability of the war-like Muslims to the south where they’ve previously faced the Ottoman Empire, the Persian Empire… and that’s to mention the Mongolian conquests and the Chinese expansion as well.
Their solutions in the past, both under the Tsar and under the Soviets is to gobble up more and more real estate to the south. The Soviet strategy before Reagan slapped them down was to encircle the Mideast oil fields– thereby cutting off oil to the West at will– faint an invasion to the through the Mideast and then drive west into Europe.
This might very well be a replay of this same strategy by the Kremlin.
For the United States, with all the enemies that we have faced throughout our entire history, from the British to the Japanese, there has been an absolute consistency in who we oppose: empires.
We, Americans, are the destroyer of empires. Always have been. But let it be known right now, that we were not the aggressors here. For months now, Russia has been on full nuclear alert against us, bringing their weapons of war to the fail-safe point, and in a few instances, beyond it. If conflict comes between America and Russia, we didn’t start it.
Once again, I believe this war is ultimately about the oil pipeline that we’ve invested billions in building. If for no other reason, it is a cold, wet slap in our faces, and a warning against attacking Tehran. But then, I’ve been expecting something like this for over a year now. (see Shanghai Cooperation Organisation).
I find it no small coincidence that this invasion was exquisitely timed with the start of the Olympic Games, especially with a war-weary world in mind, and it is also no coincidence that Russia had the necessary troop strength to invade. Massing that level of troops takes time, and a considerable amount of effort, especially when we talking about the logistics necessary for a successful invasion. This, I would point out, is well beyond what is required for a “peacekeeping” force. I find their entire contention laughable. A force strong enough to invade and occupy land with all the logistic train necessary is drastically different from a force strong enough to keep the peace.
I have heard from multiple sources that the rank and file of Russia revere Stalin, of all people. This is why they love Putin. No leader throughout the entire world is beloved by their own people, except Putin whom we, in the US, regard as a former-KGB thug and an authoritarian ruler…
At this point, I think it is incumbent upon Russia to prove to us that they have no further designs on the Mideast. If they take over all of Georgia and perhaps even further south to Armenia, our troops in Iraq would be bracketed by enemies on all sides. Iran to the East, Syria to the West and an ambiguous Russia to the north.
If I were Bush or any leader in a position to make decisions on the matter, I would treat Russia as hostile until proven otherwise.