May 30 2007
Can you hear the hoofbeats?
***Further Thoughts Below***
A friend of mine emailed me this recent article from Newsweek and it was ominously titled, “A Return to Pastoral Europe?” For a few years now, we were becoming acclimatized to the notion of a Eurabia, where with the catastrophic decline in European birthrates simultaneous with the infusion of Muslim immigrants will radically change the face of Europe. A Muslim Continental Europe is now a virtual inevitability, even if native Europeans decide to fight at this late date (provided they won’t nuke all the entire Mideast, that is).
But the implications of an imploding Europe is far more ominous than I would have imagined. Seeing spread of Islam into an imploding Europe is only seeing it from one angle.
This is not decades off. It’s happening right now…
Germans are getting used to a new kind of immigrant. In 1998, a pack of wolves crossed the shallow Neisse River on the Polish-German border. In the empty landscape of Eastern Saxony, speckled with abandoned strip mines and declining villages, the wolves found plenty of deer and rarely encountered humans. They multiplied so quickly that a second pack has since split off, colonizing a second-growth pine forest 30 kilometers further west. Soon, says local wildlife biologist Gesa Kluth, a third pack will likely form, possibly heading northward in the direction of Berlin.
Wolves returning to the heart of Europe? A hundred years ago, a burgeoning, land-hungry population killed off the last of Germany’s wolves. Today, it’s the local humans whose numbers are under threat. Wolf-country villages like Boxberg and Weisswasser are emptying out, thanks to the region’s ultralow birthrate and continued rural flight. Nearby Hoyerswerda is Germany’s fastest-shrinking town, losing 25,000 of its 70,000 residents in the last 15 years.
Such numbers are a harbinger of the future. Home to 22 of the world’s 25 lowest-birthrate countries, Europe will lose 41 million people by 2030 even with continued immigration, according to the latest U.N. Population Division report. The biggest decline will hit rural Europe. As Italians, Spaniards, Germans and others produce barely half the children needed to maintain the status quo—and rural flight continues to suck people into Europe’s suburbs and cities—the countryside will lose close to a third of its population, say both the United Nations and the EU. “It’s a triple time bomb,” says University of Lisbon demographer Nuno da Costa. “Too few children, too many old people and too many of the remaining young people still leaving the village.”
The implications of this transformation touch on everything from tourism to retirement locales to government conservation and agricultural policies. Our postcard view of Europe, after all, is of a continent where every scrap of land has long been farmed, fenced off and settled, where every tree has been measured, counted and named. But the continent of the future may look rather different. “Big parts of Europe will renaturalize,” says Reiner Klingholz, head of the Berlin Institute for Population Development. Bears are back in Austria. In Swiss alpine valleys, farms have been receding and forests are growing back in. In parts of France and Germany, wildcats and ospreys have re-established their range.
This sounds like an eco-environmentalist’s dream, inspiring loose talk of a Europe Pastoral—the return of wide-open spaces and primeval wilderness to a densely settled landscape. Yet the truth is more varied, and interesting…
You can read the rest here.
Further thoughts:
Within the context of Europe’s collapsed demographics, I think it’s understandable their coddling and surrendering to the Muslim extremists abroad and in their own soil. They cannot generate the numbers required to fight a war against the Islamofascists in the Mideast, and they don’t have the numbers required to defend themselves from the Islamofascists in their own countries.
What can they do but accommodate and surrender and buy time?
What the urban Muslims in Europe don’t understand is that once the native Europeans go, they’ll go down with them. No services. No electricity. Hell, they won’t even have enough people to operate the plumbing, and once the plumbing goes, diseases will again run rampant. They will be dominant in Europe for all of a few minutes before the curtain closes. Furthermore, the Arab Muslim states neighboring Europe heavily relies on European and American technology and food just to sustain itself. With Europe down for the count and the possibility of another period of American isolationism, what chance do the Arab Muslims have?
We are seeing an entire civilization implode with a whimper. The environmentalists/Leftists/Buildaburger crowd are trying to engineer the human population to its lowest possible number. The problem they just don’t seem to get is that everything shuts down. To live in a high-tech civilization and fly around in your private jets, you’ve got to have a critical mass of people doing the grunt work. That takes sheer numbers. Without sheer numbers, everything implodes back to a Dark Age.
For instance, you’ve got to have people to mine and drill the ground for oil. You’ve got to have people to mine the mountains for iron ores. You’ve got to have people to grow rubber. Etc. Etc. Ad nauseum. Ad infinitum. The myriads of factors required to make a civilization go is virtually infinite and virtual incalculable. It would be folly to think you can game the system and divert it to do your bidding.
What’s more, I don’t think that the Muslims would resume their eternal war with the infidels if they thought they didn’t have a chance. They only halted their conquest of Europe because of the Crusades, gunpowder and the industrial revolution. And as it turned out, it was only a few hundred year hiatus. Now that Europe is imploding and is weak, they’ve resumed their offensive.
In any case, for Europe, it’s done. I don’t think we will have the luxury of sitting back with our binoculars from across the Atlantic and eat popcorn while Europe goes the way of the Titanic.
I think our current War on Terror is but just a prelude to the worldwide upheaval this event will cause.
The main attraction is yet to come…
Pretty amazing. I knew the environmentalists wanted to depopulate the human race from this planet, but I never thought that their demographic strategy of socialism had already been taking care of the plan in Europe!
Ymarsakar,
Within the context of Europe’s collapsed demographics, I think it’s understandable their coddling and surrendering to the Muslim extremists abroad and in their own soil. They cannot generate the numbers required to fight a war against the Islamofascists in the Mideast, and they don’t have the numbers required to defend themselves from the Islamofascists in their own countries.
What can they do but accommodate and surrender and buy time?
What the urban Muslims in Europe don’t understand is that once the native Europeans go, they’ll go down with them. No services. No electricity. Hell, they won’t even have enough people to operate the plumbing, and once the plumbing goes, diseases will again run rampant.
We are seeing an entire civilization implode with a whimper. The environmentalists/Leftists/Buildaburger crowd are trying to engineer the human population to its lowest possible number. The problem they just don’t seem to get is that everything shuts down. To live in a high-tech civilization and fly around in your private jets, you’ve got to have a critical mass of people doing the grunt work. That takes sheer numbers. Without sheer numbers, everything implodes back to a Dark Age.
For instance, you’ve got to have people to mine and drill the ground for oil. You’ve got to have people to mine the mountains for iron ores. You’ve got to have people to grow rubber. Etc. Etc. Ad nauseum. Ad infinitum. The myriads of factors required to make a civilization go is virtually infinite and virtual incalculable. It would be folly to think you can game the system and divert it to do your bidding.
In any case, for Europe, it’s done. I don’t think we will have the luxury of sitting back with our binoculars from across the Atlantic and eat popcorn while Europe goes the way of the Titanic.
What’s more, I don’t think that the Muslims would resume their eternal war with the infidels if they thought they didn’t have a chance. They only halted their conquest of Europe because of the Crusades, gunpowder and the industrial revolution. And as it turned out, it was only a few hundred year hiatus. Now that Europe is imploding and is weak, they’ve resumed their offensive.
I think our current War on Terror is but just a prelude to the worldwide upheaval this event will cause.
The main attraction is yet to come…
Europe’s still got some fight left in them. Not much, but some. They got nowhere to run, and as such on death ground they must fight. Even if badly.
Btw, your descriptions rival Rome’s fall rather eerily. The barbarians took over Rome, but they didn’t give a damn about maintaining the infrastructure. And even if they did, the barbarian culture mentality prided itself on strength… not book learning. Book education was for wimps and the culture actively sought against it.
Sound like the Arabs in Arabia to you, Thom?
Ymarsakar,
Yes, it does sound eerily like Rome. I also sounds eerily like the United States and its illegal immigrants as well. The macho Latino culture prides itself on strength and not books as well.
In fact, Rome was taken over piecemeal. Initially, Rome hired mercenary barbarians to fight their wars and guard their borders. Over time the Roman Legions began to break down in Roman discipline because most of them weren’t Roman anymore. Rome then tried to buy them off by letting them live as Visigoths in Roman territory, surrendering parts of Rome one territory at a time— no assimilation into being Roman. The Visigoths and the Vandals sacked Rome after Rome rejected their demands for further benefits.
According to some calculations, every single American is paying about $19,000 for every illegal in the United States per year, for health care, schools, prisons, insurance, etc. That sounds eerily like us doing what Rome did— buying off our illegals. Our illegals don’t want to be Americans. They say so, and I see it every day in LA.
Europe has problems with their Muslims but we’ve got problems too…
Let me amend my last comment. There are also many illegal immigrants who do want to assimilate and be part of America, and I don’t know the percentages of each. I don’t think we are in it as bad as the Europeans since at this point, theirs is insoluble. I think our problems can be resolved, though I suspect it’s not going to look very pretty. I imagine our problem could be solved with mass amnesty and mass deportation of the criminal elements simultaneously. But for Europe, the nails are being hammered in as we speak. Their problem at the moment is that they don’t realize their laying down inside it.
The problem isn’t the immigrants per say, it is the Democrat elites here and in Europe who want to use immigrants as slave labor. But you know with slaves there are eventually going to be slave revolts and revolutions.
Peasants with pitchforks could never endanger or threaten the power of the elites or of the majority here in the US, Thom, not without outside resources and backing. Like Syria and Iran, or in this case the Democrats and Socialists.
The geo-political situation is simple. Illegal and legal immigrants are like the Sunnis in Al Anbar. Stubborn and proud, yes, but so were Southerners and still are to a certain degree. They aren’t the real enemy, Thom, because eventually if you play your cards right, they will become your allies. As the Japanese are our allies, as the South are our allies, as the Sunnis of Fallujah are our allies.
But Al Qaeda, Socialists, and Democrats will always be our enemies. Let us not lose sight of that. The man burning down the building is only a temporary threat, it is the leader that ordered and funded the operation that is the hand we must strike off.
Y,
Yes, I agree entirely. The illegal immigrants aren’t our enemies. They are mainly desperate people in dire situations. I do have a sef-centered fear that the wave of millions of illegals coming across the border will forever destroy certain aspects of America that I’ve always loved. But who knows? Maybe the from this huge influx of illegals, once they’ve assimilated and naturalized to our culture, maybe they will spark a revival in all that I’ve found good in our culture. Only time will tell.
But you are right in this one and I was wrong. Al Qaeda and their ilk are our enemies. Not these illegals.
It is the socio-political matrix we have right now. Meaning, if it weren’t for the race baiters, slave traffickers, and puppet masters of the Left, these immigrants would assimilate. The Left is preventing the assimilation of these people, because only by keeping them on the other side of the law, can they create desperation and then offer themselves up as the “solution”. Just as Al pollutes to Hell and Back, and then offers himself up as the Angel of Global Salvation. It is not, Thom, as if Al is reducing pollution with his three monitor, jet stream traveling, hypocritcal self.
http://cheatseekingmissiles.blogspot.com/2007/06/electron-al-at-work-major-carbon-burn.html
The puppet masters don’t want to solve the problem of immigration or illegality, they just want to talk about it as they talk about global warming. They talk about it, they puff up the problem, and then they offer their own pet solution, which is convenient because they not only have zero intention of solving the problem but they were the ones that created the problem in the first place. You’ve seen the effects on the black community from Democrats who just cannot give up the whip and chain. (Robert Byrd is a Democrat btw and fourth in line for the Presidency) The Democrats are essentially right in saying that there is institutional racism, it is just that they, the Jacksons and Sharptons, ARE the cause of institutional racism. You see how such a model works.
Now apply it to illegal immigrants and Mexicans across the border.
So long as people are in a ghetto and can’t progress, the Left sustains and increases their power. Which they like, and whatever violence crops up, they won’t care cause they will be safe while powerless people elsewhere die. Fine with them. Just as it is fine with Saudis that export terror to the US to save their own hides.
All these societal degradations come from the elites first and foremost, not from the masses. Because in our day and age, Thom, problems actually can be solved if people are physically not in the way of progress. But certain people have the resources to actually block progress, whereas before they were mostly with the status quo trying to maintain what they had. The KKK said much the same thing about immigrants and how immigrants would overcome the American culture and ethic. History didn’t quite turn out that way. That’s because all the reactionaries were trying to resist assimilation, all the progressives were attempting to create better education for folks.
Now a days, the reactionaries are attempting to increase immigration because they want a chaotic environment, which they will then procede to exploit. Jihadists also like chaotic environments coincidentally.
The general majority of American culture is a good influence. Only by stopping that influence, replacing it with an evil and negative influence, can you actually create a problem out of immigration.
And the Democrats have both enough desire and legitimate power to accomplish that. They are not some fringe group like the KKK, that controls things from the sidelines via constituency calls. They are the party in power. They control directly the strings of governors and senators. It is far different in shape than some reactionary group of lynchers out to stop immigrants from taking their job. This is organized. Organized fronts are always more dangerous than disorganized ones.
The same methods that are used to combat terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan will work, I tell you, at the border. And not just because of violence and lawlessness there either, but because of the logistics that support such violence. It is not random.